tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post1694650149010234872..comments2024-01-04T04:11:55.717+02:00Comments on Dienekes’ Anthropology Blog: La Bastida, Bronze Age Iberian fortified siteDienekeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02082684850093948970noreply@blogger.comBlogger1125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-20099886849588991252012-09-29T01:06:29.775+03:002012-09-29T01:06:29.775+03:00You noticed details I had missed, thanks.
I was ...You noticed details I had missed, thanks. <br /><br />I was rather thinking that the Eastern influences are not clear until the adoption of pithos burial by this very same civilization c. 1500 BCE but it seems that there are some other elements pointing to earlier connections. <br /><br />However I cannot find a linguistic connection because these cultures would seem ancestral to later Iberian ethno-linguistic populations and nothing I have ever read of Eteocretan or Lemnian-Etruscan (plausibly original from the area of Troy), never mind ancient Greek, Hittite, Hattic, Semitic, etc., resembles Iberian. So I find difficult to imagine any major E>W migration at that point. <br /><br />Also there were older civilizations in the area for which the Oriental connection, while not impossible (tholos, excavated tombs), is always extremely evasive. <br /><br />On the other hand some words may have spread from East to West in that period, for example the well attested iri/ili/uri/uli Iberian (and Basque) for town/city, related to oriental words of same meaning like Ilion, Iriko (Jerico), Iri-salem (Jerusalem), Elis or Sumerian "uru" (Uruk, Ur, Eridu), all them meaning the same (sometimes known for sure, in other cases inferred). <br /><br />Krutwig also proposed a connection between the Eteocretan and also Mycenean Greek term "wanaka" (king, later replaced in Greek by basileos), the Trojan Aeneas and the Western name of mystery origin but often associated to mythical kings Eneko, Iñigo, Angus (Oengus). It could well be that the words for "city" and "king" were migrating only then from East to West in connection with other influences. <br /><br />Notice also Sumerian aba (cow), Basque abere (cattle, livestock). Greek aries (ram), Basque ahari (ram), etc. Although these may also stem from older connections. Majuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369840391933337204noreply@blogger.com