tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post875032125273073228..comments2024-01-04T04:11:55.717+02:00Comments on Dienekes’ Anthropology Blog: Ancient mtDNA and gene flow from Siberia to NE EuropeDienekeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02082684850093948970noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-91966270469288151422013-02-18T11:24:53.872+02:002013-02-18T11:24:53.872+02:00Nice work. Another case of (~7,500 y) old H! I s...Nice work. Another case of (~7,500 y) old H! I suspect, as for other uniparental histories, we will find that some <i>sub</i>groups are paleolithic, others spread during the neolithic. IMO, y-DNA I may also be such a case, with the Scandinavian variant spread from a (~Balkan?) refuge, and others (from the Balkans?) at the beginning of the neolithic. <br /><br />PCA analysis:<br /><br />aUZPO were before westward migration of East-Uralic/ Central/East Siberian people, so they were actually closer still to aHG and also extand Volga-Ural basin people.<br /><br />Same old story: before modern times, when people migrated in any significant numbers to have an impact, they usually brought their women with them, initially. However, if they survived and were successfull, they quickly ran out of women and took on local wives. So, aBOO is still very Eastern Uralic (West Siberian) and has Central/Eastern Siberian elements, but extant Uralic speakers largely no longer are (even the Saami are closer to aHG).<br /><br />As to the statement about the western v.s. eastern Saami origin, I don't think it has been shown that Ahrensburgian is exclusively western, at all. In fact, all I see is an extent all the way to Eastern Poland and at least equal association with Magdalanian and the Sviderian culture (Svidero-Ahrensburgian Complex). So, West Uralic and some East Uralic/ West Siberian haplogroup influences might in fact date back that long ago.eurologisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03440019181278830033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-53378601909766371362013-02-16T23:28:16.633+02:002013-02-16T23:28:16.633+02:00http://www.google.ca/search?q=%CE%A0%CE%B1%CF%80%C...http://www.google.ca/search?q=%CE%A0%CE%B1%CF%80%CE%B1%CE%B3%CE%B5%CF%89%CF%81%CE%B3%CE%BF%CF%80%CE%BF%CF%8D+%CE%BB%CE%BF%CF%85+site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.livemedia.gr%2F&btnG=Search&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&lr=&cr=&safe=images&gs_l=heirloom-serp.3...565.750.0.1153.2.2.0.0.0.0.97.192.2.2.0...0.0...1c.1._tw_yCzjVXQ&hl=en&nfpr=1&spell=<br /><br />is a site that might link to a bunch of videos about ancient dna Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06727817782053618603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-44517797687337701982013-02-16T17:07:57.732+02:002013-02-16T17:07:57.732+02:00"...the presence of mitochondrial DNA haplogr...<i>"...the presence of mitochondrial DNA haplogroups C, D, and Z in Early Metal Age individuals suggested discontinuity with Mesolithic hunter-gatherers and genetic influx from central/eastern Siberia."</i><br /><br />The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seima-Turbino_Phenomenon" rel="nofollow">Seima-Turbino phenomenon</a> also dates to around 3,500 years before present. I should expect to find Siberian DNA moving west by that time.Va_Highlanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04671547664669092756noreply@blogger.com