tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post7278740245152857044..comments2024-01-04T04:11:55.717+02:00Comments on Dienekes’ Anthropology Blog: The eclipse of 1178BC and the return of Odysseus to IthacaDienekeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02082684850093948970noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-52575677664346831602008-06-30T01:38:00.000+03:002008-06-30T01:38:00.000+03:00Oral tradition in Homer's Age was a highly-formula...Oral tradition in Homer's Age was a highly-formulaic ritualized and disciplined exercise. Homer may have exaggerated the prowess of Achilles & Ajax & Hector, but the late Bronze/early Iron transition was an era of great warriors who were widely sung in other oral epics,<BR/><BR/>Homer was simply the greatest compilation of these hero songs. Also, Ithaca might have had cremation traditions---the island was at that time on the very edge of the Mycenean world.dave in bocahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10164227301361227792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-33092548574581564142008-06-24T10:40:00.000+03:002008-06-24T10:40:00.000+03:00The Trojan War(s) supposedly lasted 12 years, and ...The Trojan War(s) supposedly lasted 12 years, and he was lost along with his crew for another decade.<BR/><BR/>Homer's first book was written long after the Trojan War. And the characters, they all had superpowers, rather like comic-book heroes so how much we can rely on his tales I don't know.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Achaeans buried their dead, so they should find his body by now.Crimson Guardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08259882884691575025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-72872254105002313132008-06-24T10:17:00.000+03:002008-06-24T10:17:00.000+03:00about noon on April 16, 1178 B.C., and would have ...<I>about noon on April 16, 1178 B.C., and would have coincided roughly a decade before the most often cited estimate for the sack of Troy — about 1190 B.C.</I><BR/><BR/><B>After!</B> 1178 BCE is 12 years <B>after</B> 1190 BCE. I think this detail is important for the credibility of the hypothesis (Odyseus went on his travels after the Trojan war, not before, right?) <BR/><BR/>Still, I have a doubt:<BR/><BR/><I>Next, five days before the supposed eclipse, Odysseus arrives in Ithaca as the Star of Dawn — that is, Venus — rises ahead of the sun.</I><BR/><BR/>I checked the sky for that date (using a reputed astrological resource) and I get Venus rising after the Sun for that date. I'd like if someone could confirm this because this element does seem to contradict the narration: Venus can be the morning or the evening star: it varies, and in this case it seems it was in "evening" phase. Mercury instead was in "morning" phase, so maybe the narration refers to Mercury.Majuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369840391933337204noreply@blogger.com