tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post7209520500456856041..comments2024-01-04T04:11:55.717+02:00Comments on Dienekes’ Anthropology Blog: Medieval West Siberian mtDNADienekeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02082684850093948970noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-42953127915794597882011-08-12T12:18:20.395+03:002011-08-12T12:18:20.395+03:00The comment by Onurs has some mysteries.
The studi...<i>The comment by Onurs has some mysteries.<br />The studied regions are East of Urals, and the Eastern mtDNA probably is from the local Kets.<br />Chuvash live rather far away West of Urals. The population is based on Bolgars, who came from farther East than Altai and may well have had Eastern components.<br />It would be good to specify the Eastern components in Chuvash if they are a topic of discussion, but it hardly has much to do with the original subject.</i><br /><br />I already know these. I didn't compare Chuvash with the populations studied in this paper but with their Uralic speaking geographical neighbors (all of them from west of Urals), who had been studied at various times in the past. My first sentence was about the populations studied in this paper (thus east of Urals), but my second sentence was about Chuvash and their Uralic speaking neighbors (thus west of Urals). Sorry for the ambiguity.<br /><br />Yes, historically Chuvash seem to be a continuation of Bulgars (Turkic speakers), who in turn seem to have fused many Uralic speaking tribes in the past.Onur Dincerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05041378853428912894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-11013401655272590892011-08-11T17:51:07.930+03:002011-08-11T17:51:07.930+03:00The comment by Onurs has some mysteries.
The studi...The comment by Onurs has some mysteries.<br />The studied regions are East of Urals, and the Eastern mtDNA probably is from the local Kets.<br />Chuvash live rather far away West of Urals. The population is based on Bolgars, who came from farther East than Altai and may well have had Eastern components.<br />It would be good to specify the Eastern components in Chuvash if they are a topic of discussion, but it hardly has much to do with the original subject.Pikeperchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03762681546916941870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-77397898777105019352011-08-10T16:01:45.753+03:002011-08-10T16:01:45.753+03:00So, an East Eurasian and West Eurasian mix in an e...<i>So, an East Eurasian and West Eurasian mix in an era that is post-Turkic expansion and in the last case possibly also post-Mongolian empire expansion?</i><br /><br />The Turkic and Mongolian migrations do not seem to have affected the genetics of the studied regions and folks. Even the Turkic speaking Chuvash seem to lack genetic effects of the Altaic migrations (their Mongoloid components seem derived from Uralic people) and genetically seem completely local and not Turkic-influenced.Onur Dincerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05041378853428912894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-21157133146327097452011-08-08T19:03:49.192+03:002011-08-08T19:03:49.192+03:00So, an East Eurasian and West Eurasian mix in an e...So, an East Eurasian and West Eurasian mix in an era that is post-Turkic expansion and in the last case possibly also post-Mongolian empire expansion?Andrew Oh-Willekehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02537151821869153861noreply@blogger.com