tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post712895194209785695..comments2024-01-04T04:11:55.717+02:00Comments on Dienekes’ Anthropology Blog: Evolutionary history of Uralic languages (Honkola et al. 2013)Dienekeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02082684850093948970noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-13526481193280941742014-09-18T03:02:41.529+03:002014-09-18T03:02:41.529+03:00blogen, you know I told you so many times to sprea...blogen, you know I told you so many times to spread your ethnocentric nationalistic non-sense to forums, but not here.<br /><br />I cite: "...the only "urheimat" we can determine is the last one, the place where the Turks lived before the dissolution of the Ancient Turkic unity. The last habitat we can reconstruct with our data and existing methods can be placed in west and central Siberia and in the region south of it."<br /><br />source: Róna-Tas, András. “The Reconstruction of Proto-Turkic and the Genetic Question.” In: The Turkic Languages, pp. 67-80. 1998.<br /><br />So, no proto-Finno-Ugrics in Western Siberia. so-called "Andronoid" cultures have ties to Turkic Karasuk Dandybay sites. And even the very term "Ugor" is Turkic *facepalm*Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07676332146333673999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-27551636198469374312013-05-17T22:49:34.180+03:002013-05-17T22:49:34.180+03:00Yes Slumbery, and compatible with the archeologica...Yes Slumbery, and compatible with the archeological cultures of Western Siberia:<br /><br />age of ugor separation:<br />15-8th century BC: proto-magyars/proto-other ugric - West Siberian andronoid cultures (Cherkaskul, Mezhovka, etc.)<br /><br />age of the ancient magyars:<br />7th century BC - 5th century AD: Hungarians in the Asian homeland - Sargat cultural complexblogenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00235020238840403345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-68387334319802299142013-05-17T02:06:08.289+03:002013-05-17T02:06:08.289+03:00Unrealistic. Should be considerably younger Unrealistic. Should be considerably younger Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07166839601638241857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-72883263011389134562013-05-16T22:52:00.491+03:002013-05-16T22:52:00.491+03:00The error bars on the dates are sufficiently large...The error bars on the dates are sufficiently large that it really isn't possible to reach any meaningful conclusion using the data that they analyze.andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08172964121659914379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-84901389064940519112013-05-16T21:49:13.181+03:002013-05-16T21:49:13.181+03:00The time for the separation of the Hungarian langu...The time for the separation of the Hungarian language is consistent with what I have read from Hungarian linguists in the past, so their model probably reasonably realistic. They also connected it to the change of climate and flora in the region. <br />Slumberyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05139930329199925111noreply@blogger.com