tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post4258638236159595286..comments2024-01-04T04:11:55.717+02:00Comments on Dienekes’ Anthropology Blog: Long Live the 25th March 1821Dienekeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02082684850093948970noreply@blogger.comBlogger75125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-83450552661281248232010-04-12T00:54:10.974+03:002010-04-12T00:54:10.974+03:00Gioello, no one really cares who either you or Onu...<i>Gioello, no one really cares who either you or Onur are, so drop the subject.</i><br /><br />You are technically right, Dieneke, but his claims put me under suspicion, so I should defend myself until I prove my disconnection to the claims.Onur Dincerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05041378853428912894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-34200975113983337082010-04-12T00:47:38.075+03:002010-04-12T00:47:38.075+03:00This comment has been removed by the author.Onur Dincerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05041378853428912894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-86125385030425073152010-04-12T00:22:32.557+03:002010-04-12T00:22:32.557+03:00Gioello, no one really cares who either you or Onu...Gioello, no one really cares who either you or Onur are, so drop the subject.Dienekeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02082684850093948970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-45664290768705755662010-04-11T23:44:26.088+03:002010-04-11T23:44:26.088+03:00Dear Gioiello, I know neither Italian nor Swedish,...Dear Gioiello, I know neither Italian nor Swedish, I only know Turkish (my mother tongue) and English (from school years). Additionally, I know - mostly from Internet research - the phonology, orthography and pronunciation rules of some languages (mostly European and Middle Eastern languages, and including Italian btw) with varying degrees of proficiency depending on the language. <br /><br />I think I know how to convince you that I am not Johan or Occhiai and I am really Onur Dincer. <br /><br />http://tarihdeniz.blogspot.com/2010/03/turkcenin-ilk-kez-konusulmas-ve.html<br /><br />The above is a link to a thread of a blog to which I have been sending posts for the last two years under the name of "onur". As soon as you enter the page, you will notice how an enormous number of my posts I deleted before settling on a final revision. You should already have noticed my habit of deleting my posts consecutively until finally fixing on a last revision. In case the month names appear on your screen in their Turkish forms, I should inform you in advance that "Mart" means "March" and "Nisan" means "April" in Turkish.<br /><br />As another proof that I am really Onur Dincer and not someone else and certainly not Johan or Occhiai, and this time including my surname, I want to forward to you some of my emails I sent last year to the owner of the blog I linked above. In them, you'll see that their sender email address consists of my first name and surname with the last two digits of my birth year and that the recipient email address is the same with the email address of the blog owner, which is displayed in his blog above his photo. Of course, I must first learn your email address.<br /><br />As to the Sun Language Theory, of course it is, and was, absurd, and because of that it was abandoned during the 1940s.Onur Dincerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05041378853428912894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-4743333660252024082010-04-11T23:36:09.648+03:002010-04-11T23:36:09.648+03:00This comment has been removed by the author.Onur Dincerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05041378853428912894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-88493790116947546112010-04-11T23:28:57.666+03:002010-04-11T23:28:57.666+03:00This comment has been removed by the author.Onur Dincerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05041378853428912894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-47139393892574398512010-04-11T20:19:05.502+03:002010-04-11T20:19:05.502+03:00"Occhiai" was a nickname of a Turk as yo..."Occhiai" was a nickname of a Turk as you, who wrote sometimes to me, and I suspected he really was this "Johan Hagman", as I suspect you are the same "Johan". As I have said many times I don't like these "rompicoglioni". I unmasked him writing some sentences in Turkish language. Really a wanderful language, even though it is absurd to think it is the "mothertongue" of all the languages of the world (in the past they thought the same for Hebrew etc.). Certainly I believe in the monogenesis of the languages or, at least, in the Nostratic theory, then to a link between Altaic languages and Indo-European ones.<br /><br />If you are Johan, certainly your knowledge of Turk has progressed now and it would be difficult for me to unmask you.Gioiellohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578860964923773647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-62878977886976147992010-04-11T20:16:33.820+03:002010-04-11T20:16:33.820+03:00Gioiello, you almost cannot find me on the Interne...Gioiello, you almost cannot find me on the Internet, as I don't have a website, or a photo, bio or CV, etc. of mine uploaded to the Internet, or even a Facebook or Twitter account. Only publicly visible thing I do on the Internet is to write on a handful of forums and blogs, mostly under the name of "onur", there is nothing else you can find about me on the Internet. Btw, my surname is Dincer (as I already stated, c is with cedilla), not Dencer. <br /><br />I am wondering the reason of your curiosity about me. <br /><br />As to the origin of my first name, the French "honneur" was deliberately transformed into the Turkic-sounding "onur" by some of the state officials (probably including academicians) working for the state-sponsored Turkish Language Remorm (TLR) of the 1930s Turkey in order to sell it to the official TLR Committee, whose aim was to replace Turkish words of foreign origin (including Arabic, Persian, Greek, Armenian and of course French among others) with words that have Turkic word roots (most of which were neologisms). Another criterion was that the neologisms must have complied with the Turkish vowel harmony rules (only words of Turkic origin are expected to comply with the Turkish vowel harmony rules in Turkish, not words of foreign origin, e.g., "fatih", a Turkish word of Arabic origin, doesn't comply with the Turkish vowel harmony rules). The French "honneur" was artificially transformed into "onur" by some state officials working for the TLR to meet these criteria, as there is by chance a Turkic root "on" and a Turkic suffix "-ur", which are expectedly completely unrelated to the French word "honneur" (or its Latin form "honor") and its meaning, and the word "onur", unlike the word "honneur", complies with the Turkish vowel harmony rules. So, depite its obvious French origin, its newly coined version "onur" somehow managed to be passed as a word of "Turkic origin" in the circles of the TLR officials. Though this may have to do with the similarly state-sponsored Sun Language Theory of the 1930s Turkey, which proposed that all human languages are ultimately descended from Ancient Turkic language. Thus this theory created a more inclusive and positive atmosphere for Turkish words of foreign origin and foreign word borrowing with the progress of time in the 1930s and beyond. In short, your conjecture of a Latin connection directly or via Balkan languages going back to remote past, i.e., before the modern era (btw, modern era begins in the 19th century in the Ottoman lands), is certainly wrong, but the state officials behind the coinage of "onur" may have also been influenced by the Latin - and even English - version of the French "honneur".<br /><br />Btw, you still haven't answered my question about the meaning of the word "occhiai". I guess it is a personal name.Onur Dincerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05041378853428912894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-77057856349888357102010-04-11T20:14:49.991+03:002010-04-11T20:14:49.991+03:00This comment has been removed by the author.Onur Dincerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05041378853428912894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-30918003238277135272010-04-11T20:09:44.545+03:002010-04-11T20:09:44.545+03:00This comment has been removed by the author.Onur Dincerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05041378853428912894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-18126424904950968882010-04-11T20:04:14.162+03:002010-04-11T20:04:14.162+03:00This comment has been removed by the author.Onur Dincerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05041378853428912894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-71578981284963973292010-04-11T19:54:40.985+03:002010-04-11T19:54:40.985+03:00This comment has been removed by the author.Onur Dincerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05041378853428912894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-38838282952856514442010-04-11T19:27:31.386+03:002010-04-11T19:27:31.386+03:00This comment has been removed by the author.Onur Dincerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05041378853428912894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-52506705079806683942010-04-11T19:23:41.637+03:002010-04-11T19:23:41.637+03:00This comment has been removed by the author.Onur Dincerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05041378853428912894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-71259174467215294762010-04-11T19:21:32.754+03:002010-04-11T19:21:32.754+03:00This comment has been removed by the author.Onur Dincerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05041378853428912894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-10969436296963898062010-04-11T19:19:51.191+03:002010-04-11T19:19:51.191+03:00This comment has been removed by the author.Onur Dincerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05041378853428912894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-22093248429099491702010-04-11T18:53:27.749+03:002010-04-11T18:53:27.749+03:00This comment has been removed by the author.Onur Dincerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05041378853428912894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-78896532437009652032010-04-11T18:50:31.287+03:002010-04-11T18:50:31.287+03:00This comment has been removed by the author.Onur Dincerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05041378853428912894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-70833717960051672232010-04-11T18:47:20.755+03:002010-04-11T18:47:20.755+03:00This comment has been removed by the author.Onur Dincerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05041378853428912894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-43637259378977967742010-04-11T18:32:50.333+03:002010-04-11T18:32:50.333+03:00This comment has been removed by the author.Onur Dincerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05041378853428912894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-55027916912782842742010-04-11T08:14:21.301+03:002010-04-11T08:14:21.301+03:00The name of "quel rompicoglioni svedese"...The name of "quel rompicoglioni svedese" is Johan Hagman.<br /><br />There are six Onur Dencer on "google": Who are you? Johan knows a little bit Turkish language, very well Italian and also his English is good.<br /><br />Re. the origin of "Onur" I think it is closer to the Latin "honor" than to Frech "honneur". This word was present from ancient time in the Balkanic peninsula (Alb. "endra" etc.).Gioiellohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578860964923773647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-43875693959748013252010-04-11T02:17:19.664+03:002010-04-11T02:17:19.664+03:00This comment has been removed by the author.Onur Dincerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05041378853428912894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-52111078184465104152010-04-11T02:11:51.626+03:002010-04-11T02:11:51.626+03:00This comment has been removed by the author.Onur Dincerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05041378853428912894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-21719031375573487842010-04-11T02:03:32.639+03:002010-04-11T02:03:32.639+03:00This comment has been removed by the author.Onur Dincerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05041378853428912894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-82821220343348572482010-04-11T01:47:56.449+03:002010-04-11T01:47:56.449+03:00This comment has been removed by the author.Onur Dincerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05041378853428912894noreply@blogger.com