tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post3227446872894665661..comments2024-01-04T04:11:55.717+02:00Comments on Dienekes’ Anthropology Blog: Why did Neanderthals have broad noses?Dienekeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02082684850093948970noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-15307533466255485312014-07-10T04:27:09.065+03:002014-07-10T04:27:09.065+03:00I think I know why their nasal cavity was so large...I think I know why their nasal cavity was so large - Neandertal needed A LOT of oxygen.<br /><br />A. They were huge and muscular.<br />B. It was cold.<br /><br />I imagine them breathing like a steam locomotive to fuel that inner fire! Especially if they were naked, or their primitive clothing was inadequate for the climate.<br /><br />Why is this never mentioned?Ronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02937717583426478438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-24527723578179845282008-11-01T15:42:00.000+02:002008-11-01T15:42:00.000+02:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.<a href="http://www.totalmedtranscription.net/">Medical Transcriptions Services</a>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09962975720521616720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-55797263537096185532008-10-26T11:23:00.000+02:002008-10-26T11:23:00.000+02:00Nasal width of Korean American women is 35.5mm, of...Nasal width of Korean American <A HREF="http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2004/08/korean-american-womans-face.html" REL="nofollow">women</A> is 35.5mm, of Greek women it is 32.4mm, and of Italian women it is 29.5mm (J Craniofac Surg. 2005 Jul ;16 (4):615-46)Dienekeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02082684850093948970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-88439584872871841312008-10-26T04:22:00.000+02:002008-10-26T04:22:00.000+02:00Forgot to link the pic:http://www.stay-awake.org/w...Forgot to link the pic:<BR/>http://www.stay-awake.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/n694391059_120777_2892.jpgrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04377460204421275833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-1452250718726998552008-10-26T04:21:00.000+02:002008-10-26T04:21:00.000+02:00That's not what I said, Dienekes... Anyway, I'd sa...That's not what I said, Dienekes... <BR/>Anyway, I'd say four out of the five Korean guys in this picture have lower nasal width values than the Greek composite you have as your avatar.<BR/><BR/>Here are also some measurements:<BR/>http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/1439/27tableiib01uy4.jpgrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04377460204421275833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-61863711389987614642008-10-24T11:52:00.000+03:002008-10-24T11:52:00.000+03:00The average nasal width of certain Asian groups is...<I>The average nasal width of certain Asian groups is narrower than that of certain European groups. Take 10 random northern Chinese and chances are reasonable that they would have narrower noses than 10 Italian Americans.</I><BR/><BR/>The nasal width of Italians is 32.1mm, the same as White Americans . The Japanese have nasal width of 38.2mm. What is your evidence that North Chinese have narrower noses than Italians?Dienekeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02082684850093948970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-27621676558115329552008-10-24T09:48:00.000+03:002008-10-24T09:48:00.000+03:00http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c2...http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c2/Prince_Sultan.jpg<BR/><BR/>Neanderthals had "Caucasoid" noses, broad and prominent.<BR/><BR/>Maju, please try not to keep confusing narrowness with prominence, broadness with a "flat nose".<BR/><BR/>The average nasal width of certain Asian groups is narrower than that of certain European groups. Take 10 random northern Chinese and chances are reasonable that they would have narrower noses than 10 Italian Americans.renhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04377460204421275833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-17410062710507441312008-10-16T10:18:00.000+03:002008-10-16T10:18:00.000+03:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-73643067711121090962008-10-15T22:42:00.000+03:002008-10-15T22:42:00.000+03:00Yeah well they will have also explain the Neandert...Yeah well they will have also explain the Neanderthal's ancestor, Homo-Heidelbergensis' nose too...which had to have been broad as well but thrived in Southern Europe as well.Crimson Guardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08259882884691575025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-61918749064374429582008-10-15T22:37:00.000+03:002008-10-15T22:37:00.000+03:00AFAIK, most archaic Homo sapiens also had broad (N...AFAIK, most archaic Homo sapiens also had broad (Negroid-like) noses (and prognathism too, sure). Think in Skuhl specimens, for instance. It may be just a general dominant trait from our common ancestors that they did not really need to alter. <BR/><BR/>The evolutionary explanation of nose shape is somewhat lacking anyhow. It may be more an identity/aesthetic trait actually, with a mere founder effect behind. Maybe Caucasoids favored somewhat prominent narrow noses in sexual selection just because they found them less Neanderthal-like, who knows?Majuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369840391933337204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-69893517077289285282008-10-15T20:02:00.000+03:002008-10-15T20:02:00.000+03:00Its an interesting article, but whats the explanat...Its an interesting article, but whats the explanation on modern Europoid Phenotypes or Mongoloids which poses such similar traits?<BR/><BR/>Neanderthals mostly lived in the warmer temperate and more inhabitable areas of Paleolithic Europe, which was mainly Southern Europe and the Near East rather than the brutal inhospitable and barren colder Northern European areas as often portrayed.<BR/><BR/>Mongoloids posses often facial prognathism and generic broad noses. Many of them dont come from cold areas either.<BR/><BR/>Also aside from Semi-Mongoloid influenced Europoid types like(East Baltics, Lapps and Ladogans) with broad noses and often faces, like say Alpines/Borreby's and Dalo-Nordics/Paleo-Sardinians or Coon's Nordo-Mediterranean Alpine hyrids(ie Brunns)--Whats the story behind their associated traits often interpreted as being Neanderhtaloid derived or even cold weather derived? I dont think it pans out to well in either case. The so-called Paleo-Sardinia type shouldn't exist in the south and the Nordic shouldn't exist in the North then.<BR/><BR/>If early modern humans(namely Caucasoid came from Africa, whether it be North Africa or East Africa, the climate would not of produced broad noses or such robust facial traits. That area was quite green and temperate, neither the snow covered Alpine valley nor barren desert wastelands of the Sahara.Crimson Guardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08259882884691575025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-314351388507903432008-10-15T18:56:00.000+03:002008-10-15T18:56:00.000+03:00This comment has been removed by the author.Crimson Guardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08259882884691575025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-90814990948100705642008-10-15T18:50:00.000+03:002008-10-15T18:50:00.000+03:00This comment has been removed by the author.Crimson Guardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08259882884691575025noreply@blogger.com