tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post2387834277268584124..comments2024-01-04T04:11:55.717+02:00Comments on Dienekes’ Anthropology Blog: In search of Dionysos. Reassessing a Dionysian context in early RomeDienekeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02082684850093948970noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-14297528919378983372010-06-23T23:51:04.962+03:002010-06-23T23:51:04.962+03:00This supports a theory in which Italic languages a...This supports a theory in which Italic languages and associated cultural markers arrive as a single package on the Italian Peninsula close to time to the legendary date for the founding of Rome by Romulus in the Iron Age.<br /><br />If saytr symbolism is part of the Italic cultural package, it was likely part of the Celtic cultural package as well, as the Italic and Celtic languages are two of the most closely related in the Indo-European family and cultural traces clearly associated with Italic and Celtic cultures appear at around the same time in Europe.<br /><br />This suggests the use of saytr symbolism as one way to classify the culture sphere to which non-literate cultures belonged (as the Etruscan case indicates, some societies, however, borrowed much of the culture but not the associated languages -- religion changes more easily than language).<br /><br />In particular, IRRC, there are very ancient and early traces of saytr like symbolism and artifacts in the British Isles. Date those traces and you date that appearance of the influence of that cultural sphere in Britain, and you link that cultural sphere all the way back to the Aegean and Italian branches of that cultural sphere.Andrew Oh-Willekehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02537151821869153861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-27721889478080048832010-06-23T23:02:12.651+03:002010-06-23T23:02:12.651+03:00From the wiki page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...From the wiki page:<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dionysian_Mysteries<br /><br />"In intoxication, physical or spiritual, the initiate recovers an intensity of feeling which prudence had destroyed; he finds the world full of delight and beauty, and his imagination is suddenly liberated from the prison of everyday preoccupations. The Bacchic ritual produced what was called 'enthusiasm', which means etymologically having the god enter the worshipper, who believed that he became one with the god." (Bertrand Russell, A History of Western Philosophy).Marniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10850856778953207810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-40389506528274013622010-06-23T19:53:16.782+03:002010-06-23T19:53:16.782+03:00I am of course considering practisers of neo-Greco...I am of course considering practisers of neo-Greco-Roman religious movements as - inevitably - very bad copies of the real thing. Unless we have a direct connection to the ancient Greco-Roman world (which we cannot have without a time machine), we cannot grasp their religion and culture.Onur Dincerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05041378853428912894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-26451701029326422392010-06-23T19:41:26.265+03:002010-06-23T19:41:26.265+03:00Studying Greco-Roman religion is like studying a d...Studying Greco-Roman religion is like studying a dead language that has left written records: there are ancient written records and artifacts concerning Greco-Roman religion, but no living practiser to touch and feel it and grasp it, it is just unreachable... forever.Onur Dincerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05041378853428912894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-22157005856789132952010-06-23T13:04:30.612+03:002010-06-23T13:04:30.612+03:00Nice you mention. I began reading the other day (w...Nice you mention. I began reading the other day (was mentioned elsewhere, Archeology in Europe probably) but haven't finished yet. <br /><br />It's interesting to notice that the Christian Church did not only persecute gladiatorial plays but every other sign of Ta Theia, including theater. <br /><br />It's potentially an interesting potential link with the "witches' religion" that came to light in Early Modernity under inquisitorial persecutions in the Western Europe.Majuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369840391933337204noreply@blogger.com