tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post1977533692122239287..comments2024-01-04T04:11:55.717+02:00Comments on Dienekes’ Anthropology Blog: Relationship between Iran and the Arabian peninsulaDienekeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02082684850093948970noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-77972152720981795302011-03-30T00:47:50.200+03:002011-03-30T00:47:50.200+03:00The Gulf has not been a permanent body of water. R...The Gulf has not been a permanent body of water. Rose and others suggest that during the ice age the Schatt continued in a watercourse (Ur-Schatt) running toward the Gulf of Oman. There may have been fertile wetlands and perhaps the origins of the marsh arabs.<br />Anyway there was no barrier between Arabia and Iran to separate polulations. While this theory has gotten seized by those explaining the Deluge and perhaps Garden of Eden, it has its own and scientific existanceaeoliushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09528717028785728695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-5162871301204966312011-03-29T23:08:55.735+03:002011-03-29T23:08:55.735+03:00@ sidoroffs
I share your frustration with these k...@ sidoroffs<br /><br />I share your frustration with these kinds of hide the ball abstracts that spend all their time stating the problem instead of reciting their findings to solve those problems.Andrew Oh-Willekehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02537151821869153861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-10406636768568262392011-03-29T14:59:35.864+03:002011-03-29T14:59:35.864+03:00Dear Dienekes,
Can you please say what exactly ar...Dear Dienekes,<br /><br />Can you please say what exactly are they calling "a previously unexplored, genetic connection between Iranian populations and the Arabian Peninsula"?sidoroffshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00947879951567311038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-21137449154870156112011-03-29T04:49:52.317+03:002011-03-29T04:49:52.317+03:00I have never seen any evidence that Iranians migra...I have never seen any evidence that Iranians migrated into Iran from Northeast. <br />The easier explanation is that all Iranians are originally from Northwest-Iran. <br />An alternative hypothesis would be that Iranians came originally from the Caucasus region and migrated south into Northwest-Iran.<br /><br />Medians, the first described Iranians, are from Northwest-Iran. <br />Based on Arabian sources, Balochis were deported from Northwest-Iran into Southeast-Iran by the Sassanid emperor Khosrow I (531-579). <br />Gilakis and Mazaradanis are also originally from Northwest-Iran and were deported by Neo-Assyrians to the South of the Caspian Sea (8. century BC).<br />Azeris are still living in Northwest-Iran and originally spoke an Iranian language.<br />Kurds are Iranians and they also still live in Northwest-Iran.<br />Persians, the second described Iranians in history, are from a region called Parsua in Northwestiran. Persians are originally not from the Fars Province (Southwest-Iran).<br />Read here,<br />http://books.google.com/books?id=g7N74BFaC90C&pg=PA3&dq=parsua+834&hl=en&ei=qmXtTJrqK4O2sAP199mjBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCYQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=parsua%20834&f=false<br />"The Persians are mentioned for the first time in Assyrian texts from the ninth century B.C. An inscription by the Assyrian king Shalmaneser III, which was written around 843 B.C., mentions the region of Parsua...<br />It has been assumed that around 800 B.C. the Persians detached themselves from the Median tribes and, faced with the onslaught of the Urartians and Manneans, moved south into valleys of the Zagros mountains and then gradually migrated further to the southeast. "<br /><br />Based on Eratosthenes, the land of Ariana was between the Taurus mountains (East-Turkey) to the Indus river (Pakistan).Palistohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05633640722962576468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-3189440411729246482011-03-29T00:47:17.840+03:002011-03-29T00:47:17.840+03:00Arabia is right below the whole southern extent of...Arabia is right below the whole southern extent of Iran, only separated by the Gulf. The shortest distance from Arabia to Iran is from the area of Kuwait, and the tip of Oman. As a comparison; the Mediterranean separates North Africa and Southern Europe by a large distance, yet there is significant affinities in the two population. <br /><br />In the stone reliefs of Persepolis, capital of the first Iranian empire, the Persians were phenotypically indistinguishable from other Near Eastern groups like the Babylonians, with dark, tightly curled beards and prominent noses. The Bactrians, who were supposed to be the "purest" Iranians had flat faces, straight hair, and overall Mongoloid phenotype. <br /><br />I think its about time we reanalyze our old perceptions of population affinities in Central Asia and Iran. And we start to considering the old Aryan state an eastern genetic extension of the old Middle Eastern races. To their north were probably already admixed populations who adopted IE language and culture. The so called blonde or redhead Iranians appear to be more recent contributions from Russia and Europe, in the similar way we see them in Lebanon, but are not part of the founding populations. [If this post is repeated, please delete the extras]Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12359843934371340018noreply@blogger.com