tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post110664770822279375..comments2024-01-04T04:11:55.717+02:00Comments on Dienekes’ Anthropology Blog: Ecological dominance, social competitionDienekeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02082684850093948970noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-92085747794019632222010-07-23T01:17:50.599+03:002010-07-23T01:17:50.599+03:00They state authoritatively that "No other pr...They state authoritatively that "No other primate that lives in large, cooperative multiple-reproductive-male groups has extensive male parental care, although some male protection is evident in Papio (Buchan et al., 2003)." This is incorrect. Sex ratios in the Gibraltar Ape - actually a macaque -Macaca sylvanus - are fairly even, with many adult males resident within a troop. Females mate with all the adult males in the troop. Males are frequently seen involved in parenting, including carrying the infants for extended periods during the day and teaching them to walk. This has been known since the 1970's through the research of Frances Burton and her students. Sarah Hrdy, a scholar who has also written on this subject in other primates, even goes so far as to suggest that promiscuous mating helps to promote this kind of male parental involvement since no male can be sure any infant is NOT his.Helga Vierich-Dreverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09568382320650892770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7785493.post-19939699583890931702010-07-23T01:15:38.833+03:002010-07-23T01:15:38.833+03:00Ever since Robert Ardrey's book The Territori...Ever since Robert Ardrey's book The Territorial Imperative there have been attempts to show that our own ancestral species, such as the Australopithicines, must have been territorial.<br /><br /> But there has been enough research into the way land is used and conceptualized among hunting and gathering peoples to call this assumption into question. <br /><br />You get reciprocal access, a close companion in the survival handbook of the hunter-gatherer, with the phenomenon of generalized reciprocity. <br /><br />I have no reason to try to deny that humans are capable of murder and warfare but does this mean these are part of a species-specific behavioural algorithm? <br /><br /> Alexander's "autocatalytic social arms race" was not gangs of guys beating each other to a pulp to take away territory. It was the whole cultural system, and the way people had to keep track of it all and deal in the most efficient (smartest) way with competition and other cultural groups.<br /><br /><br />"Human groups also tend to be male philopatric, resulting in extensive male kin alliances, useful for competing against other groups of male kin..."<br /><br /> Why, while taking all this trouble to be accurate over minute details of neural functioning, did they not go to the appropriate ethnographic literature and brush up on hunter-gatherers? <br /><br />Hunter-gatherers are usually bilateral in terms of kinship reckoning, although some are patrilineal and some are matrilineal. Many hunter-gatherers have a pattern of matrilocal post-marital residence, a few have patrilocal, and some are neolocal. <br /><br />And what the heck is a mere tendency doing in this discussion? We are not trying to explain the tendency for human brains to have a special region for Theory of MInd, or Empathy. We are not discussing a tendency for human infants to altricial, or for human females to experience menopause. <br /><br />The only thing I can think of is that they have placed a lot more emphasis on male coalitions formed - primarily among male kinsman- for the purpose of war, front and centre in their own minds as a mechanism explaining why we became human at all. <br /><br />The only reason, as far as I can see, why they would risk doing this is because they are seriously suggesting that humans have been forming gangs to beat up guys from other (competing, supposedly) communities AS A MAIN STRATEGY ever since we parted company with the line leading to Pan troglodytes. <br /><br />The hypothesis that is suggested here is NOT supported by all the known data from ethnography and primatology. It still needs work. <br />Regards, HelgaHelga Vierich-Dreverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09568382320650892770noreply@blogger.com