November 13, 2004

Haplogroup Q in Eastern Europe

Continuing previous post, I visited YSearch looking for haplogroup Q representatives in Europe.

My reading of these records seems to indicate that most of them are of Jewish origin. There may be probably some bias, due to the greater representation among Ashkenazi Jews in the ysearch sample compared to Christian Eastern Europeans, but a search for haplogroup R1a reveals some names which sound non-Jewish, at least with my limited knowledge.

6 comments:

javax-slr said...

Ashkenazi Q may be described as Khazars influence, because they are Q1b, while Yemenite jews are Q1a.


Here is the FTDNA project of people claiming Ashina ancestry
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/AshinaRoyalDynasty/default.aspx

ALFRED KRUPA ASHENA said...

There is indeed a very serious consideration that it can be claimed the Ashina of Khazars tribe ancestry, almost in the same manner like we have old DNA - new DNA comparison match, if we accept several statements as historical truth;
- the Ashina royal tribe (clan) ruled over Khazaria during existence of the Western Gok-Turk /Celestial Turks/ Empire
- the Ashina royal tribe (clan) seized direct control and rule in mid 7th century over Khazaria, after Gok-Turk Empire collapsed
- in 8th century only part of rulers of Khazaria (meaning the Ashina tribe-Clan)converted on Judaism

So far, increasingly emerging number of evidences speaks in favor of this quotations known from a number of formal and historical sources and reports. This is particulary underlined with Q1b discovery among Ashkenazi Jews, and with the latest archeological work of Russian scientists.

They show that Judaism was practiced only in a very narrow ,the ruling ,circle.

ALFRED KRUPA ASHENA said...

iGENEA in communion with FTDNA just issued to me formal Y-DNA Certificate of Ancestry as ASHINA OF KHAZARIA (Ashkenazi Q/Q1b haplotype in question).
Historical moment.

Gioiello said...

Very interesting. A friend of mine, and American of Italian descent, had an FGS which matched a Buryat. He thought to have a Jewish ancestry by the mother side. I said to him that it probably was true, but probably the mother had a Khazar mtDNA. In these days I found on SMGF and I put on Ysearch an Italian Q, very rare in Italy, from Tuscany and named Casanova. I’d be curious to know his origin. There is a Casanova in the same town from where his ancestors migrated to US more than a century ago, probably linked to him. But in Italy the interest for DNA tests is very low.

steve bee said...

I don't think it is Khazar I think it represents an older element possibly a historical invading group into Assyria (It's present in Assyrians who like Jews seldom intermarried and Iraqi Jews as well as North African Jews) probably from when Persia took over Assyria and Assyria took over Israel. The suggestion is some Scythian Asiatic subtribe.

If it were Khazar it would show up in Jewish Turkic groups which it never does.

steve bee said...

I don't think it is Khazar I think it represents an older element possibly a historical invading group into Assyria (It's present in Assyrians who like Jews seldom intermarried and Iraqi Jews as well as North African Jews) probably from when Persia took over Assyria and Assyria took over Israel. The suggestion is some Scythian Asiatic subtribe.

If it were Khazar it would show up in Jewish Turkic groups which it never does.